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Re: 2011 Formula 1 Season - Official Discussion Thread

Post by Mar » 29 Dec 2010, 10:46

Thanks a lot Phil. :thumbsup:
I will try to listen to what Carabante said, because here nobody seems to have taken it seriously.

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Post by phil1993 » 29 Dec 2010, 10:55

The Santander link is a hoax apparently, that story DID come yesterday from a site that has done such things on the 28th of December before. But the story about HRT having a major Spanish sponsor IS true.

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Post by iceman1 » 29 Dec 2010, 11:01

cformula1 wrote:I hope it's Repsol that sponsor HRT, if only for the cool livery. :D Then again, Telefonica could see HRT as a way to follow through on their Campos plans.
If they plan to keep Bruno senna in the team they might go with Iberdrola/Endesa they have big investments in Latin America.

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Post by phil1993 » 29 Dec 2010, 11:02

Senna will not stay with the team unles a huge amount of money comes with him. Kolles doesn't like him, doesn't rate him and never wanted him in the team in the first place.

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Post by iceman1 » 29 Dec 2010, 11:40

phil1993 wrote:The Santander link is a hoax apparently, that story DID come yesterday from a site that has done such things on the 28th of December before. But the story about HRT having a major Spanish sponsor IS true.
They're not funny at all :p
A Spanish website has admitted a news story about Santander buying into the Spanish team HRT was a hoax.
The website said the bank had bought 40 per cent of the struggling team and would announce the deal at the same time as confirming Pedro de la Rosa as the main driver for 2011.
The news was published on December 28; a Spanish holiday known as 'Day of the Innocents', which is similar to April Fools' Day.
HRT to use old car for the first tests
HRT's 2011 car will not be present for the start of the official pre-season test period in early February.

Owner Jose Ramon Carabante recently announced that the Hispania team will be running at the first group session at Valencia on 1 February.

But El Mundo Deportivo newspaper reports that the single seater in action will be HRT's Dallara-built 2010 car.

The report said the main reason HRT will not have its 2011 car at Cheste is because the team wants to evaluate a range of potential race drivers for next season.

HRT recently split with its 2011 car supplier Toyota, with Carabante revealing that a Cosworth-powered chassis is being designed by Geoff Willis "partly in Germany and partly in England and it will be ready".

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Post by iceman1 » 29 Dec 2010, 13:23

Petrov says Kubica didn't help him :

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Russian rider Lotus Renault Vitaly Petrov believes that Robert Kubica in a sense, afraid of him, and why not share experiences during the 2010 season.

Виталий Петров: «Помогал ли Баррикелло Хюлькенбергу? Vitaly Petrov: "Does Barrichello Hülkenberg? Мы не знаем этого и можем только предполагать. We do not know and we can only speculate. Я считаю, что Кубица правильно делает, что не помогает мне, что боится. I think Kubica rightly so, that does not help me that he was afraid. Борьба напарников очень важная. Cricket teammates is very important. Кто будет выигрывать внутри команды, тот останется, а другого могут попросить. Who will win within the team, he will remain, while others might ask. I do not want to put ahead of target in 2011 specifically Kubica, but it is one of the contenders, and I'll fight him. "
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iceman1 wrote:Petrov says Kubica didn't help him :

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Russian rider Lotus Renault Vitaly Petrov believes that Robert Kubica in a sense, afraid of him, and why not share experiences during the 2010 season.

Виталий Петров: «Помогал ли Баррикелло Хюлькенбергу? Vitaly Petrov: "Does Barrichello Hülkenberg? Мы не знаем этого и можем только предполагать. We do not know and we can only speculate. Я считаю, что Кубица правильно делает, что не помогает мне, что боится. I think Kubica rightly so, that does not help me that he was afraid. Борьба напарников очень важная. Cricket teammates is very important. Кто будет выигрывать внутри команды, тот останется, а другого могут попросить. Who will win within the team, he will remain, while others might ask. I do not want to put ahead of target in 2011 specifically Kubica, but it is one of the contenders, and I'll fight him. "
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I can help with this one a bit :) my explanation, additions are in brackets

Did Barichello help Hulkendurg? We don't know and can only speculate. I think that Kubica does right not helping me, that he is afraid (of me?). Teammates' fight (competition) is very important. One who is winning will stay in team and the other might be asked (to leave). I don't want to put as a target for 2011 to be ahead of Kubica especially, but he is one of the competitors and will fight him.
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Post by phil1993 » 29 Dec 2010, 19:03

Petrov thinks Kubica is scared of him?

:rofl:

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Post by harrisv48 » 29 Dec 2010, 19:55

All the years have given epic battles each other and now are allies :)


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Post by Ali » 29 Dec 2010, 20:59

Denorth wrote:
iceman1 wrote:Petrov says Kubica didn't help him :

Google translator :
Russian rider Lotus Renault Vitaly Petrov believes that Robert Kubica in a sense, afraid of him, and why not share experiences during the 2010 season.

Виталий Петров: «Помогал ли Баррикелло Хюлькенбергу? Vitaly Petrov: "Does Barrichello Hülkenberg? Мы не знаем этого и можем только предполагать. We do not know and we can only speculate. Я считаю, что Кубица правильно делает, что не помогает мне, что боится. I think Kubica rightly so, that does not help me that he was afraid. Борьба напарников очень важная. Cricket teammates is very important. Кто будет выигрывать внутри команды, тот останется, а другого могут попросить. Who will win within the team, he will remain, while others might ask. I do not want to put ahead of target in 2011 specifically Kubica, but it is one of the contenders, and I'll fight him. "
http://www.f-1.ru/n8219

I can help with this one a bit :) my explanation, additions are in brackets

Did Barichello help Hulkendurg? We don't know and can only speculate. I think that Kubica does right not helping me, that he is afraid (of me?). Teammates' fight (competition) is very important. One who is winning will stay in team and the other might be asked (to leave). I don't want to put as a target for 2011 to be ahead of Kubica especially, but he is one of the competitors and will fight him.
Thanks Denorth.

I think this is not lost in translation as it was my first impression. This is lost in Petrov! I really don't want to believe he said Kubica might have be afraid of him. I mean, how could poss...

Geez. By the way, I'm not sure if it is down to drivers whether or not to share car set-ups. It might be team strategy to readily assess whether Petrov could do it or not but still. I mean, if Petrov would have taken the points Schumacher did, Renault could have leapfrogged Mercedes. Million euros at stake. I don't think this is that easy from team point of view.
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Re: 2011 Formula 1 Season - Official Discussion Thread

Post by Denorth » 29 Dec 2010, 21:07

Ali wrote:
Denorth wrote:
iceman1 wrote:Petrov says Kubica didn't help him :

Google translator :
Russian rider Lotus Renault Vitaly Petrov believes that Robert Kubica in a sense, afraid of him, and why not share experiences during the 2010 season.

Виталий Петров: «Помогал ли Баррикелло Хюлькенбергу? Vitaly Petrov: "Does Barrichello Hülkenberg? Мы не знаем этого и можем только предполагать. We do not know and we can only speculate. Я считаю, что Кубица правильно делает, что не помогает мне, что боится. I think Kubica rightly so, that does not help me that he was afraid. Борьба напарников очень важная. Cricket teammates is very important. Кто будет выигрывать внутри команды, тот останется, а другого могут попросить. Who will win within the team, he will remain, while others might ask. I do not want to put ahead of target in 2011 specifically Kubica, but it is one of the contenders, and I'll fight him. "
http://www.f-1.ru/n8219

I can help with this one a bit :) my explanation, additions are in brackets

Did Barichello help Hulkendurg? We don't know and can only speculate. I think that Kubica does right not helping me, that he is afraid (of me?). Teammates' fight (competition) is very important. One who is winning will stay in team and the other might be asked (to leave). I don't want to put as a target for 2011 to be ahead of Kubica especially, but he is one of the competitors and will fight him.
Thanks Denorth.

I think this is not lost in translation as it was my first impression. This is lost in Petrov! I really don't want to believe he said Kubica might have be afraid of him. I mean, how could poss...

Geez. By the way, I'm not sure if it is down to drivers whether or not to share car set-ups. It might be team strategy to readily assess whether Petrov could do it or not but still. I mean, if Petrov would have taken the points Schumacher did, Renault could have leapfrogged Mercedes. Million euros at stake. I don't think this is that easy from team point of view.
there is a Russian old saying, in literal translation: 'one counts young chicks in autumn only'. Let's wait for the results, so far it was Petrov's interview for Russian press, so guy has to raise his stake. So far he was far bloody beind Kubica. and he was one of the "true" pay-drivers - no salary from the team and paying for his place (by bringing sponsors). It is very different to the situation when one brings sponsors and gets the salary from the team.
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Post by HandoZiZle » 29 Dec 2010, 21:19

harrisv48 wrote:All the years have given epic battles each other and now are allies :)

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Post by saif » 29 Dec 2010, 22:49

phil1993 wrote:Petrov thinks Kubica is scared of him?

:rofl:
Everyone is scared of Petrov, you never know when he crashes into your car.
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